{"id":2493,"date":"2002-09-01T21:25:20","date_gmt":"2002-09-01T15:55:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alpha.ravikiran.com\/blog\/2002\/09\/01\/proof-of-truth\/"},"modified":"2002-09-01T21:25:20","modified_gmt":"2002-09-01T15:55:20","slug":"proof-of-truth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/vintage\/200209\/proof-of-truth\/","title":{"rendered":"Proof of Truth"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Swami&#8217;s <a href=http:\/\/www.asymptotes.blogspot.com\/2002_08_01_asymptotes_archive.html#80796468>post <\/a>  on Truth and Provability has generated some interesting comments. My thoughts on the subject are rather longish, and I thought they deserve a post here.<br \/>Truth is different from provability.To explain why I think so, I need to resolve the surprise quiz paradox, which goes like this:<\/p>\n<p><i><font size = -1><br \/>On friday, the professor tells his students that he was going to set a surprise quiz the next week. A student thinks &#8220;If on friday, the professor has not yet set the quiz, I&#8217;ll come to know that the quiz is on friday. So the quiz has be held on or before thursday. <br \/>But then if he doesn&#8217;t hold a quiz monday to wednesday, I&#8217;ll know that the quiz is on thursday. So the quiz can&#8217;t be on thursday either.&#8221;<br \/>So by elimination, <a href=http:\/\/asymptotes.blogspot.com>Swami<\/a> (for that was the student&#8217;s name) decides that the prof was bluffing about the quiz, and there wasn&#8217;t going to be one.<br \/>Thereupon the professor surprises Swami with a quiz on Monday morning, jolting him out of his weekend blues.<\/font><br \/> <\/i><\/p>\n<p>Where&#8217;s the catch? Did Swami <i>prove<\/i> that there wouldn&#8217;t be a quiz? Think again. The professor had said that he would set a surprise quiz. Model this statement logically and you have two premises:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li \/>I will set a quiz this week.\n<li \/> You will not be able to predict the day on which the quiz will be held.<\/ol>\n<p> Given these two conditions, could Swami have <i>proved<\/i> on friday morning that the quiz would be on that day? Any candidate proof would immediately violate condition 2. But would he <i>know<\/i>  on thursday night that the quiz would be held on friday?  A computer would hang if we tried to model a set of impossible conditions and asked it to solve for the result. Swami, who is presumably a human (unless he is an automated blogger trying to pass the Turing test) would find it possible to get at the &#8216;truth&#8217; beyond provability.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Swami&#8217;s post on Truth and Provability has generated some interesting comments. My thoughts on the subject are rather longish, and I thought they deserve a post here.Truth is different from provability.To explain why I think so, I need to resolve the surprise quiz paradox, which goes like this: On friday, the professor tells his students [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2493"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2493"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2493\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2493"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2493"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ravikiran.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2493"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}