“Which side are you on?”

CK, over at Yazad’s place, wants to know if we libertarians ever think that corporations are in the wrong in any single instance. Of course we do. But we do believe that in a society with just laws, criminals are in a minority, and when criminals commit crimes, they should be punished for it. Negligience by Union Carbide that resulted in 2000 of Bhopal’s citizens dying almost certainly falls into that category.

But because we believe that criminals are a minority, we don’t believe that a surveillence regime makes sense, whether against citizens or against corporations. In fact, we believe that a society that requires permissions for everything ends up benefiting criminals and hurting honest people. As the ardent capitalist Ram Manohar Lohia said, “Panditji, under your socialism, an honest man cannot become rich and a rich man cannot stay honest”

One example of laws encouraging dishonest people and punishing honest people is found in our system of education. We think that education is so important to us that we have made it impossible for an honest man to benefit from providing education. The system of getting permission to open an engineering college is so difficult and so ridden with corruption that only well-connected politicians can open a college. So it has come to pass that a lot of private engineering colleges run by corrupt politicians and providing education of atrociously poor quality are strewn all over India, especially in Maharashtra and Karnataka. These colleges are used by people as “proof” that the private sector does not do a good job of providing education.

CK will probably want to know what we libertarians think of those private educational “entreprenuers”. Do we think that they are crooks or do we think that it’s the government’s fault that the education system is in a mess? I have no answer except to ask him to look up the meaning of “false dichotomy”

By the way, we don’t just “defend” corporations. Here is Sauvik Chakraverti “defending” Veerappan

It is only with property rights that every natural resource can be conserved. Veerappan also sold ivory. Zimbabwe refused to ban the ivory trade and handed over all the forests and the elephants to the jungle people. Soft-headed environmentalists predicted doom. But even these unlettered jungle people knew that they should not kill the goose that lays golden eggs. They allowed elephant hunting with a $50,000 fee. And they made sure that the mad Texans who came to hunt big game shot only the old ones, or the rogues. They farm ivory. And Zimbabwe is the only country in Africa whose elephant population is rising!

Do we think that Veerappan was a nice man? Well I don’t. In addition to smuggling ivory and sandalwood, he also killed 120 people and kidnapped many. But we libertarians deal with policy and not with human psychology. What Veerappan would have done if forests had not been under the government control, but had been given to the local tribals to manage and “farm” for sandalwood and ivory is a question for his shrink to answer, not for us. Perhaps he would have been a successful sandalwood businessman as Sauvik says, or a petty criminal, or perhaps he would have found another avenue where he could pursued his career of killing and kidnapping. The question we ask is not “Was Veerappan a bad man or not”, but “What policies should the government follow to either prevent such people from taking to crime, or if they do take to crime, to prevent them from going very far in their chosen profession?”

9 thoughts on ““Which side are you on?”

  1. Agree with a lot of what you say.
    Just look at the taxation policy for instance.
    There was an era of super tax where people were forced to be dishonest to retain some of their honest earnings.
    Today with lower tax the compliance is high and the government gets higher revenue.

  2. If they lower the income tax rate to about 10%, they will very nearly wipe out the “parallel economy” aka “black” money.

  3. Veerappan was not a corporation.

    Political policy have many aims not just facilitating markets.

    Private education in India has poor quality because of the mentality of the management. Secondly, the world over whenever colleges have lost public funding quality has fallen. Education from UK is no longer prized as they used to be by international students because falling public investment has left most public universities dilapidated and the new private universities are no better than the ones at home. In the US, the privately-owned universities receive massive public funding in the form of grants, research funding etc. Moreover experiments in private schooling with public funding(voucher system) have failed in some countries.

    I see that this post of yours was triggered by a summary of yazadjal’s posts.

    Smoking can be blamed only on the smokers?
    Cali Energy crisis caused not by enron but by regulations?
    Food not McDonald’s fault?
    And most insane of all Bhopal Gas tragedy the fault of the govt. and not corporations?

    Seriously, you guys remind me of Communists who had a simple prescription for every problem in the world. Solutions that have no relation to reality on the ground.

    Joseph Stiglitz provided a good insight when he said to the effect that the people on the Right are ideological and fanatic in their beliefs. To me it seems no amount of evidence would convince them otherwise. Just like the Communists of yore.

    Corporations do go around shopping for poorer labour standards, lax environmental regulations etc. They even lobby with the govt. for lax standards that benefit them(though not the other corporations in their industry.)

    Corporations want govt. regulation just as much as people do. They want a lot of it so that they can tilt the scales to their advantage.

    I agree with WMD(a poster on another comment section) about the intriguing obsession with “Nehru.”

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